Yaron Gat : In the Fire, Walk With Me soundtrack there were 2 tracks.

David Lynch : Yeah. "The Black Dog Runs at Night" and "A Real Indication". "Real Indication" came first. The lyrics I had, and it was a thing Angelo and I were working on. I think we were doing a different kind of session so we had some killer players in Arty Pohlemus’ studio "Excalibur" in New York. A guy named Buster Williams on bass, Vinnie Bell on guitar, Grady Tate on drums and Angelo was playing something. Anyway, this track came into being "Real Indication" and it was a swinging track, it was really great ! So I was thinking about who was going to do the lyrics, who’s going to sing, because it wasn’t a Julee Cruise thing. Then Angelo said : let me try, and I said "OK Angelo", and I was actually embarrassed for him, because I thought this was going to be a disaster. And Angelo goes into the booth, that has actual shingle on it. It was made of wood and had a little shingles on it, like in the seventies. Arty’s place was like going into some strange eastern European, you know, sixties experience. So Angelo goes into the booth, and I wanted to get far away from it because I was thinking I would be embarrassed for him. I went in with Arty and closed the sliding glass doors so I could see Angelo and could hear him trough the speakers. So he talked and said he was ready and we started the music. Angelo surprised me so much that day ! But it not only surprised me how good he was, it was also funny ! I started laughing the more he went. There is a line in there that goes: "buzzes, buzzes" : when Angelo started doing this, it striked me so funny I buckled over laughing, and like a light bulb exploded in my groin, just what you would imagine, and I gave myself - Angelo gave me a hernia. That’s how I got my hernia.

John Neff : Oh my goodness I never heard that!

David Lynch : Yes, so "A Real Indication" and Angelo together gave me a hernia.

John Neff : Every time you hear that it must put you right there…

David Lynch : Yes, I don’t like to listen to that song any more. (Laughs)

John Neff : But the other "Thought Gang" stuff, what became "Thought Gang" stuff, was this drummer and bass player ?

David Lynch : Yes. That was another experiment. We had a session that was a combo session. Jerry Brown on drums, Reggie Hamilton on bass and some other killer players. A lot of really good materials came out of that. There is this song, "Frank 2000", that I just asked the guys, I described a scene downtown L.A at night on a kind of an intersection where certain things went bad. So they played that, it’s a pretty interesting piece of music. They got the chops, as they say, but they never really get a chance to experiment. So this was an experiment and they really did some unbelievable things.

John Neff : It’s funny because when we spoke to Reggie and Jerry about working this show, they both told great stories about how much fun those sessions were. And because the way David let them interpret his ideas and they just played their hearts out. Those guys play with the best artist in the world, and ten years later they talk about those sessions as if they happened yesterday. So it’s mixed but it isn’t out yet.